These past few days of debating with Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech have been rather productive for myself in clarifying my thoughts and ideas regarding the conspiratorial view of history.
I commend PMAFT for keeping it respectable despite his obvious contempt for the ideas we were debating. As one commenter pointed out, we are certainly on the same side when it comes to a lot of issues discussed in the MRA sphere and at the Spearhead.
But I get the sense that these debates will never get anywhere with PMAFT because he's already made up his mind about this topic. His entire premise is based upon the idea that all arguments for "conspiracy theory" all fall under the rubric of fantastic delusions of paranoia with no basis in reality.
That pointing out the Federal Reserve's role in enslaving the masses into debt slavery, that Private Foundations philanthropy has financed the social engineering of the masses through mass media communications and public schooling curriculum, and that International organizations affiliated with the UN have been working for a long time now to effect globalization and a one world government are all on the exact same level of reality-based discourse as other widely disseminated theories regarding zionist reptilian alien morgellon illuminati raellian satanic-cults who use MK-Ultra techniques to brainwash zombies to spray chem-trails over the nation to infect the populace with H1N1 so that we the Sheeple stampede to the nearest immunization clinic to sterilize ourselves before Obama herds us all into FEMA camps...
...did I forget any other conspiracy theories to conflate my arguments with?
By conflating the issues I've belabored to examine, dissect and emphasize with all of the other fantastic-sounding, syfy channel flavored conspiracy theory, he's essentially attacked a straw man.
You can search my entire archives here as well as re-read my posts on the Spearhead regarding conspiracy, and not find a single mention of any of the more fantastic, SyFy-flavored theories out there. (Oh the delicious irony of referring to conspiracy theory misinformation as "SyFy flavored" considering PMAFT's original firestorm he ignited with his SyFy piece at the Spearhead...)
My discussions have ALWAYS been confined to verifiable, factual evidence that can be researched by anyone with an objective mind and a willingness to ignore the mainstream, conventional wisdom while assessing the veracity of my source material I link to for themselves.
After all, you have to do that precise thing when you objectively research the issues pertaining to feminism and it's societal influence versus the cultural memes most people blithely accept at face value.
I remember before I knew any better, that I used to accept without a second thought that ideas about woman not having the vote, that they shouldn't have the freedom to choose sucking her fetus out of her womb with a vacuum tube, that domestic violence isn't all men's fault, that woman shouldn't have the protection of no-fault divorce, that women should be judged for their sexual behavior, that single mother's are not heroic and victims of deadbeat males and all of the other culturally indoctrinated ideals of feminism where all horrible instances of misogyny and sexism. That was my default position, because I was brainwashed into it.
That was my conditioning being raised in our Brave New World Order culture. These were assumptions that one just "knows" having spent countless hours watching TV and movies, and reading mainstream news magazines and papers, and sitting in public schooling classes and their socially engineered curriculum being crammed down my unsuspecting throat.
But once I realized I had been lied to my entire life...once I took the time and effort to educate myself and measure reality versus the propaganda of mainstream society, I began to see the extent of just how pervasive and ubiquitous lies have been promulgated into mainstream consciousness regarding feminism, gender roles and even the basic assumptions regarding "masculinity."
But once my eyes were opened to these truths, I could not stop there.
So yes, I've read extensively on the topics regarding the NWO conspiracy theory. I've at least spared a few cursory glances on the most fantastic and crazy things out there. Most of them, I read for humor's sake, and quickly moved on to find more substantial fare.
The things I've found had too much foundation in the reality I now clearly see with my own eyes. I began to connect-the-dots to much of what I found credible.
I now quite easily recognize socially engineered, dialectical arguments and themes whenever I read, see or hear them being made and reinforced by popular culture. Read and watch the things I have, and you too will begin to see it clearly.
No SyFy-flavored silliness in any of these things.
Finally, if you don't really want to bother with going through all of that...don't take my word for it that their exists a shadow government of elite bankers and philanthropists who want to take over the world in a New World Order...take their own words for it. Take the word of many prominent leaders who undoubtedly where either their puppets or controlled or manipulated by them:
"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." - Senator David Rockefeller, Co-Founder and President of the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Trilateral Commission.
"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or *promulgated* , that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this *scenario*, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." - Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991
"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent." - Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets
"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all." - Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, l992.
"We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent." - Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950
"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." - Woodrow Wilson,The New Freedom (1913)
"From the days of Sparticus, Wieskhopf, Karl Marx, Trotsky, Rosa Luxemberg, and Emma Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire." - Winston Churchill, stated to the London Press, in l922.
"For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the United States. But, he didn't. Most of his thoughts, his political ammunition, as it were, were carefully manufactured for him in advanced by the Council on Foreign Relations-One World Money group. Brilliantly, with great gusto, like a fine piece of artillery, he exploded that prepared "ammunition" in the middle of an unsuspecting target, the American people, and thus paid off and returned his internationalist political support.
"The UN is but a long-range, international banking apparatus clearly set up for financial and economic profit by a small group of powerful One-World revolutionaries, hungry for profit and power.
"The depression was the calculated 'shearing' of the public by the World Money powers, triggered by the planned sudden shortage of supply of call money in the New York money market....The One World Government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank." - Curtis Dall, FDR's son-in-law as quoted in his book, My Exploited Father-in-Law
"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson." - A letter written by FDR to Colonel House, November 21st, l933
"The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes." - Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952
"Fifty men have run America, and that's a high figure." - Joseph Kennedy, father of JFK, in the July 26th, l936 issue of The New York Times.
"The powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements, arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds' central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups." - Tragedy and Hope: A History of The World in Our Time (Macmillan Company, 1966,) Professor Carroll Quigley of Georgetown University, mentor of Rhode's Scholar and former President Bill Clinton.
"The Council on Foreign Relations is "the establishment." Not only does it have influence and power in key decision-making positions at the highest levels of government to apply pressure from above, but it also announces and uses individuals and groups to bring pressure from below, to justify the high level decisions for converting the U.S. from a sovereign Constitutional Republic into a servile member state of a one-world dictatorship." - Former Congressman John Rarick 1971
"The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down...but in the end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault." - CFR member Richard Gardner, writing in the April l974 issue of the CFR's journal, Foreign Affairs.
"I know of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years in the early 1960s to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies ... but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known." - Dr. Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope
"This regionalization is in keeping with the Tri-Lateral Plan which calls for a gradual convergence of East and West, ultimately leading toward the goal of one world government. National sovereignty is no longer a viable concept." - Zbignew Brzezinski, National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter
"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." - David Rockefeller
"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will.
If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." - David Rockefeller in his auto-biography "Memoirs"