tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post7204865184701085372..comments2024-03-23T13:16:37.006-07:00Comments on Hawaiian libertarian: Extreme Dietary InterventionsKeoni Galthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00842553742723239151noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-69596423746705220422018-10-25T07:04:48.359-07:002018-10-25T07:04:48.359-07:00Yup, good point. I frequently eat corn tortillas t...Yup, good point. I frequently eat corn tortillas that are traditionally treated with lime to negate the phytic acid in corn.suryaharapantour.comhttp://www.suryaharapantour.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-68565566392446969112014-04-08T13:01:43.017-07:002014-04-08T13:01:43.017-07:00And something similar happened with Guyenet VS Tau...And something similar happened with Guyenet VS Taubes on insulin & obesity. Almost everyone including a lot of internet health gurus at the moment mindlessly sided with Guyenet because his so-called refutation of Taubes' hypothesis had 100+ references or something - which they didn't actually took the time to read and verify, they just took the guru's stamp of approval as if it was cash - and even to this day few of them are willing to admit they didn't think very hard about the issue they just felt like they had to choose a side and that anyways you can't violate the laws of physics and calories**, which is the stupidest thing one can say about the book GCBC (in chapter 16 he points to studies/experiments showing that some people can eat a lot more calories than they usually do but they don't necessarily gain a lot of body fat with that caloric surplus). BTW Taubes is still essentially right: glycemic problems/insulin and the fear of fat is at the root of the obesity epidemic.<br /><br />And when I see people pointing at the Kitavans and their high carb/starch diet as an argument against the thesis of GCBC I just want to teleport them on the island so they can see that they have a very different meal frequency than north americans: they basically eat one big meal per day, they're not snacking on potatoes all day long, they fast or eat very little and then they cook the tubers and all the rest at the end of the day. If you're only looking at the macronutrient ratios you're clearly missing the other important pieces of the puzzle.<br /><br />Right now I'm not doing low-carb I'm basically on the Fast-5/Warrior Diet until my summer job starts then I'll have to eat 3 times a day to maintain my endurance but I'm going to keep eating most of my carbs at the end of the day.<br /><br />I disinvested my time in most of the health blogs/websites I used to read regularly. Now I mostly listen to MP3 podcasts in my car i.e. Superhuman Radio and a couple others. If I'm going to read something it'll be a book first. <br /><br />**you can read J Stanton's series of articles at www.gnolls.org on the problems with the calorie balance modelMichaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-14940651766642762152014-04-08T12:36:27.963-07:002014-04-08T12:36:27.963-07:00RE: RS. Some of these diet hacks might be useful b...RE: RS. Some of these diet hacks might be useful but all that hype is cringe inducing. Full disclosure: my opinion of Nikoley is that he's an alcoholic + an attention whore, I don't understand why so many people seem to consider him a reference or something. <br /><br />It seems a fairly large % of the paleo audience have a sheep mentality and they're going to believe their favorite guru's latest Revelation. And then the next and the next. I don't like it because I thought people who reject the government's diet plan would be smarter than that but it doesn't work like that apparently. I guess everyone wants to be 'involved' so they feel like they have to choose a side to root for or something. <br /><br />(I read a forum thread in which a RS Believer told his doom & gloom stories about his low carb phase and he's flagellating himself for having told people to try low carb :rolleyes: I suspect he jumped on the ketosis train because it was a Revelation for him at the time so he taught it was almost magic and he didn't take vitamins & minerals supplements, which is something everyone should do no matter what you're eating. Newsflash: everyone can experience vitamins or minerals deficiencies, if you're not testing for it you should take an insurance i.e. supplements) <br /><br />Remember Jack Kruse's 'Cold Thermogenesis' craze and his 'Leptin Reset' protocol? There's a 1000+ pages thread on that topic on Mark Sisson's forum but who's talking about that now? Resistant starch is just the newest buzz. That's not to say it can't be useful but when I see the paleo tribe adopting something en masse and raving about it I go back to Mr.Freeze's ice baths Revelation and remember all the super positive testimonials he received. And I like cold showers and ice baths they make me feel good (afterwards) but they're not life-changing. <br /><br />I got on the CT train for like a week until I realized that the more time and attention I invested into this the more likely I was going to look for positive outcomes. For the simple reason that the human mind doesn't like that feeling of having wasted time/energy. Expectation changes perception and if you're not aware of that your mind can get fooled by your own wishes. <br /><br />The most obvious 'revelation' everyone should agree on is that 20th Century food products and official health recommandations by government agencies aren't good for us, no matter where you live or who your ancestors were. If you avoid them you're going to be better off.Michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-69822176306443614412014-02-06T19:44:30.594-08:002014-02-06T19:44:30.594-08:00shenpen - I'm not KG, he might have other sugg...shenpen - I'm not KG, he might have other suggestions but you might start with this man:<br /><br />http://thedomesticman.com/<br /><br />fwiw, one of the go to books for foody ancestral health geeks is Mastering the Art of French Cooking. <br /><br />Rachaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261475344156866402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-6492134831493779152014-02-06T10:00:53.860-08:002014-02-06T10:00:53.860-08:00I tried the Potato Diet of Richard's and then ...I tried the Potato Diet of Richard's and then the potato starch, and had two very different but very bad reactions to both, so no more potatoes for me!<br /><br />I have been trying to get more resistant starch in my diet, so I'm doing it with the precooked rice and with properly soaked and fermented beans and lentils cooked in broth with a hambone. <br /><br />In 2008 I discovered Paleo and went high saturated fat for a couple of years, then went keto, and now I eat whatever doesn't hurt me or turn me red. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-91140304511723567362014-02-06T02:51:43.137-08:002014-02-06T02:51:43.137-08:00Hi Keoni,
This is more about your "paleo bab...Hi Keoni,<br /><br />This is more about your "paleo baby" post but still relevant here.<br /><br />I think the difference is between people like you who can keep a diet and me who cannot is that you are eating ingredients, not meals. This is really weird to me. It is as if you would have a bottom up approach, like I want this amount of macros, so I want this meat and that veg and then figure out how to cook them. Frankly it seems like very boring meals, or even when not still a break with your family tradition or whatever.<br /><br />People like me are exactly the other way around: there are meals, recipes, from your national/ethnic tradition or from your family tradition, and then you go and shop for the ingredients. Top-down. The meals, the recipes are part of the identity of the family, the people, something not easily given up. <br /><br />Of course one can still swap out the ingredients but... the whole way of thinking is different. We are not eating chicken or peas. They are just ingredients. We are eating mom's recipe of chicken peas casserole (other ingredients range from oil to onions to paprika powder to some flour for roux) that every time my wife cooks it creates a continuity between my childhood and now.<br /><br />The point I would like to make, it seems like everything from paleo to keto to vegetarian was meant for ingredient-eating people, not meal eating, traditional identity recipe eating people. And largely for boring eating people who think steak and vegs is an acceptable level of culinary performance. For people who think in a different, say, French style way i.e. if it has no sauce and not thickened with roux it is very very very basic cookery it is really hard to make the very idea of a diet even interpretable. <br /><br />Do you have any suggestions?shenpennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-84471022495892213002014-02-05T15:50:49.149-08:002014-02-05T15:50:49.149-08:00Keoni,
If you would put together an e-book outlin...Keoni,<br /><br />If you would put together an e-book outlining just the nutritional focus of your blog, along with some recipes/menus I would definitely buy it as, I'm sure, would many other of your readers.Calvadosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-4608533339365603812014-02-05T12:25:32.666-08:002014-02-05T12:25:32.666-08:00Dr. D'adamo who wrote Eat Right 4 Your Type me...Dr. D'adamo who wrote Eat Right 4 Your Type mentioned some research that showed variance in the ability to digest animal fat vs vegetables and grains depending on how early our ancestors had been exposed to them. I'm of Scandinavian descent and do best with greens and red meat. I've known folks though who trace their lineage further south who can go without meat for weeks.KJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-30123123996373644982014-02-05T08:02:35.854-08:002014-02-05T08:02:35.854-08:00Meant to say... and yes, I'm still sore!Meant to say... and yes, I'm still sore!ryannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-89073585456414459342014-02-05T07:41:02.305-08:002014-02-05T07:41:02.305-08:00Keoni,
Love your blog. Been reading for several ...Keoni,<br /><br />Love your blog. Been reading for several years. You've helped me to get healthier and for that I thank you very much. <br /><br />I want to share a brief experiment - I was inspired to do this by something you wrote a few years back.<br /><br />I'm 57. I've stayed active and have not had weight problems. But, it finally became clear that every piece of junk food just meant a lost opportunity to eat something that could make my tendons stronger, bones denser, and who knows what else.<br /><br />Each year I test myself. Super Bowl Sunday means pushups. Ten years ago, (age 47) I could crank out about 500.<br /><br />3 years ago I reached 850.<br /><br />Then I quit wheat, all HFCS, all sugar, and have only eaten eggs, meat, fish, veggies (and juiced most days), fruits.<br /><br />Pushups increased to 1500 last year, and then this year I did 2400 (seven hours)<br /><br />Just wanted to share that. No one could be more surprised than me.<br /><br />Training method...weights 3 days a week. abs two days a week.<br /><br />Pushups on sunday. thats it.<br /><br />Anyway, just want to let you know your blog is very valuable to a few of us older jocks on the downslide. haha. Thanks again.ryannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-3253445441782582162014-02-05T06:38:18.034-08:002014-02-05T06:38:18.034-08:00And here I thought you were going to tell me how I...And here I thought you were going to tell me how I could eat all the donuts I wanted and not get porky. Dang.<br /><br />We're not grain-free, here, but mostly wheat free. I can't maintain VLC the way I once could, being old and all - I think it was becoming troublesome for both my eyesight and my concentration, and I was freezing all the time which is NOT normal for me. Adding about 20g of carbs by way of half a potato or a couple tablespoons of rice with a healthy drizzle of Kerrygold completely solved those problems. I didn't notice any profound changes in digestion or sleep, but I haven't gone all in for the r/s self-experiment. I stay as low carb as possible for therapeutic reasons. I suspect I've completely corrupted my bodys ability to manage sugars. Years of whole grain goodness and borderline vegetarianism combined with more years of eating total crap have taken their toll. <br /><br /><br />Co-sign the inflammation thing. Sleep and stress factors as triggers for inflammation are ignored too often, I think, and diet can only do so much. My husbands a/i stuff was repaired in large part with diet, but even if he's eating clean but doesn't sleep properly he'll have a flare. His docs go apoplectic when he tells them he (gasp!) goes out in the sunshine without sunscreen on purpose and eats a pound of butter a week. (As opposed to what, pounding methotrexate and diet cokes? It's a wonder anybody survives medical treatment.) Three years ago he was sick to the point of incapacitation and now he's the fittest he's ever been, eating much the way you describe your own diet - I think I'll believe my lying eyes on this one.<br /><br />Rachaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261475344156866402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-43095555555119238952014-02-05T04:46:49.310-08:002014-02-05T04:46:49.310-08:00Just a personal anecdote.
My mother went to an Or...Just a personal anecdote.<br /><br />My mother went to an Orthopedic surgeon for arthritis of the talus (foot), the inflamation was the size of a small fist and her bones were separating causing joint abnormalities. The surgeon's prognosis was that she needed pan Talus fusion (basically pins to fuse all the ankle joints) and would be in a wheelchair for a while before she could walk, so we booked an appointment to schedule an operation. <br /><br />In the meantime I inadvertently read an archeological study that mentioned arthritis was nearly absent in the bones of non-grain societies compared to being very prevalent in ancient grain based societies. So I proposed to her that she remove grains from her diet (which was difficult being a vegetarian) and after a month the inflamation completely subsided, interestingly when she gets back on grains (particularly wheat) the inflamation returns.<br /><br />She has yoyoed countless times with the same result.<br /><br />That was over a decade ago and I have no idea what the underlying mechanism is but it was clear grains (except rice) was causing the arthritis. <br /><br />Johnycomelatelynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-22901553657986566302014-02-04T18:47:12.327-08:002014-02-04T18:47:12.327-08:00Yup, good point. I frequently eat corn tortillas t...Yup, good point. I frequently eat corn tortillas that are traditionally treated with lime to negate the phytic acid in corn.<br /><br />I also like to occasionally eat some sour dough rye bread.Keoni Galtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-35728395377253490752014-02-04T18:25:29.307-08:002014-02-04T18:25:29.307-08:00"Primitive" cultures have gotten around ..."Primitive" cultures have gotten around the problem with grains by fermenting them for about three days: water, the grain, yogurt. It destroys the gluten and releases the nutrients.<br /><br />The only grain I don't use is wheat, which has been so perverted I don't think it's possible to make it safe.<br /><br />It works great with oatmeal, which is how porridge is made.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16046202647270439670noreply@blogger.com