tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post2534658206286521773..comments2024-03-23T13:16:37.006-07:00Comments on Hawaiian libertarian: Raising Boys in This Brave New WorldKeoni Galthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00842553742723239151noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-63403764318197891802017-09-14T17:12:39.208-07:002017-09-14T17:12:39.208-07:00Get your access to 16,000 woodworking plans.
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I saw this short clip in the SF Times a...Hi Keoni,<br /><br />I saw this short clip in the SF Times and thought of you and your posts about raising sons.<br /><br />It's about a troubled 10-year old being sent to a bootcamp.<br /><br />http://sftimes.co/?id=143&src=share_fb_new_143<br /><br />Anyway, thought you might appreciate it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-32383584743300398512014-03-04T13:51:08.193-08:002014-03-04T13:51:08.193-08:00I would agree with much of this up to the corpal p...I would agree with much of this up to the corpal punishment. Long term studies show this damages a child without question other than conjecture. A father can be loved or feared, both will always be in conflict with one another. You are either a great man that your son will respect or you are not living up to your end of the bargain as a leader/father. Kids learn through example and repition. It is the only way the unformed brain can work. Pain teaches nothing from the hand of a loved one. If I hit you its assault, if I hit my wife its spousal abuse. If I hit a child its discipline? This is an old fashioned view that holds no weight in anything but speculation. Dig the blog otherwise! :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02935129318031023985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-88208432830252101502014-02-25T06:28:59.245-08:002014-02-25T06:28:59.245-08:00I also do think that religion is necessary, I was ...I also do think that religion is necessary, I was raised as a Catholic and I think Catholicism is a great religious without much feminist BS unlike most protestant churches.<br /><br />The importance of Religion as a kid grows up be it a boy or girl lies on the establishment of FAMILY RITUALS which is very very important Aboutliftinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00740112081812006626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-44307939174929668252014-02-19T20:24:30.691-08:002014-02-19T20:24:30.691-08:00Boys need to be trained to ignore their feelings
...<i>Boys need to be trained to ignore their feelings</i><br /><br />Just to be clear, do you mean all feelings or just negative ones like fear?<br /><br />What about feelings regarding honor, duty, protectiveness towards loved ones, righteous anger...?<br /><br />I don't think men should be emotionless automatons, although I suspect that is not what you meant here... lozozlonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-3140722295873933792014-02-18T12:27:52.560-08:002014-02-18T12:27:52.560-08:00This is a WONDERFUL post. I've linked to it, r...This is a WONDERFUL post. I've linked to it, riffed on it, and made a quibcag out of it here:<br /><a href="http://ex-army.blogspot.com/2014/02/boys-will-be-boys-with-proper-upbringing.html" rel="nofollow">Boys Will Be Boys, With The Proper Upbringing</a><br />Baloohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08245765878554696634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-28669134791066053292014-02-16T10:58:58.066-08:002014-02-16T10:58:58.066-08:00rycamor: "Once we get to the latter half of t...rycamor: "Once we get to the latter half of the 20th century, Vietnam and onward, it gets a little more difficult to explain to a boy, of course."<br /><br />Actually, more-recent and current stories of American masculine heroism and leadership from the latter of half of the 20th century and 21st century from the Korean and Vietnam wars onward, most of all stories of American heroism and leadership in the current War on Terror, are a direct antidote to current anti-masculine and anti-heroic American narratives.<br /><br />It would teach your son that American masculine vigor, heroism, and leadership are not from a by-gone era, but alive and part of today's world - your son's world. Doing so would also teach him not to accept politically correct social narratives at face value that are designed to dilute American masculine vigor.<br /><br />Notwithstanding the fecklessness of the politicians they work for, American soldiers accomplished great things - goals thought to be impossible - in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. As great or even greater than what American soldiers accomplished in the World Wars.<br /><br />There are plenty of current stories of heroism and leadership by American military men to tell your son. Ericnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-17450227099258688972014-02-15T22:45:42.878-08:002014-02-15T22:45:42.878-08:00Stories are a key element to a father-son relation...Stories are a key element to a father-son relationship. Stories from your own life are of course especially instructive. If you feel you don't have any stories of note to share with him... well that's too bad, but not the complete end of the world. For one thing, you probably do, but you just haven't thought back and come to terms with your life. Also, nothing wrong with a little embellishment to a story if it helps make a point (at least when he's young). You can also tell stories from your father or grandfather, uncles, people you knew.<br /><br />Of course, I also recommend reading to your son... lots. Most of what you read should be written before 1940, with careful exceptions made after that. You might be surprised at what captures your son's imagination. I read mine a Sherlock Holmes story at the age of 7, and he loved them so much I ended up reading him the whole 400-page anthology, complete with archaic English, complex figures of speech, and lots and lots of cultural references from the 19th century the took a lot of explaining. Great fodder for boyhood imaginations, as well as expanding his horizons on the European/American heritage.<br /><br />I also recommend reading him stories of real people, especially of men in true acts of heroism and leadership. Americans have an incredibly rich heritage of those sorts of stories, starting with the Pilgrims on through the world wars. Once we get to the latter half of the 20th century, Vietnam and onward, it gets a little more difficult to explain to a boy, of course.<br /><br />One thing I also did, since I have a flair for storytelling, is to make up adventure stories tailored toward his strengths and interests, or toward overcoming shortcomings that he is uncomfortable discussing.rycamorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00304227546071250006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-1362874541399417992014-02-15T20:19:35.134-08:002014-02-15T20:19:35.134-08:00Never humiliate his father in front of him. You ma...<i>Never humiliate his father in front of him. You may find it satisfying, but you’re doing your boy a disservice.</i><br /><br />My parents divorced when I was five. She spent the next fifteen years viciously disrespecting him to me. I cannot even begin to describe how destructive this was to my development as a man. Nothing my father could have done about it, of course, since she denied him any access to his children whatsoever.Alasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-20395780930873449202014-02-15T11:13:40.676-08:002014-02-15T11:13:40.676-08:00Keoni,
An implicit idea in your post that I would...Keoni,<br /><br />An implicit idea in your post that I would explicitly advise is instilling a healthy, constructive approach to failure, being wrong, mistakes, and shortcomings. There ought to be consequences and penalties, some imposed by parents, but those things are merely the price to pay for learning. In ed psych terms, a growth mindset and mastery learning goal orientation equip a boy to use failures as building blocks. A fixed mindset and performance goal orientation internalize and self-enforce limits. <br /><br />I would frame this famous Teddy Roosevelt quote and display it in a prominent place in my son's room:<br /><br />"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."<br /> -President Theodore Roosevelt, from "The Man In The Arena", Sorbonne, Paris, France, April 23, 1910.<br /><br />Keoni: "A well fed child (as in given nutritious food and kept from junk feed) is a well behaved child.The differences in behavior between nutritionally nourished children and SAD junk fed ADD rug rats are astounding and dramatic."<br /><br />Due to my food awareness raised from reading your blog, I wonder how much of low-achieving kids' low achievement is due to poor diet.<br /><br />I buy my food in generic city supermarkets. I don't buy as healthy as you advocate, and I do indulge in some sweet and salty junk, but I try to buy as healthy as I can from what's available on the shelves within my budget. Many of my fellow shoppers use state benefits cards to pay for their groceries, and I assume they're from the several housing projects in the neighborhood. What stands out the most is that they invariably buy a lot of name-brand junk food. As in meal ratio, not just snack ratio. It also stands out they're not cost-conscious and buy more expensive food that's also unhealthier on the taxpayer's dime.Ericnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-53265275088840140282014-02-15T08:49:17.483-08:002014-02-15T08:49:17.483-08:00I wrote a while back about raising a son from a mo...I wrote a while back about <a href="http://verusconditio.wordpress.com/2013/03/08/raising-a-man/" rel="nofollow">raising a son</a> from a mother's viewpoint. I think, as you said, one of the most important things she can do for her son is <i>respect his father</i>. It will highlight his fathers life in his eyes, as well as ground in him what a good woman does for her husband to help him in his own search if/when the time comes.<br /><br />Also, she needs to just step back. For the most part, just stay out of it and trust her husband to instill in him what a man must grow into. Too many wives just don't trust their husbands to do this. <br /><br />As to activities for boys, <a href="http://verusconditio.wordpress.com/2013/01/19/raising-boys/" rel="nofollow">I think you will really like these videos</a>. They are amazing. Stingrayhttp://www.verusconditio.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-74042909885981545682014-02-15T04:03:26.572-08:002014-02-15T04:03:26.572-08:00Perhaps I missed it (although I don't think I ...Perhaps I missed it (although I don't think I did) but dads roughhousing with their sons is a very good thing. They love it.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16046202647270439670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-40318330394959107792014-02-14T20:48:10.992-08:002014-02-14T20:48:10.992-08:00Good stuff.
Positive masculinity content is the b...Good stuff.<br /><br />Positive masculinity content is the best stuff the Manosphere has to offer. Son-raising advice is prime in that category. There can never be too much of it.<br /><br />There ought to be a red-pill education industry for parents who want to teach their sons and daughters the right way, especially if their kids are being indoctrinated in a school.<br /><br />Red-pill son-raising advice is useful for older converts to the red pill, too, because we were raised in a blue-pill environments with public education, mainstream television and movies, liberal cities, single-mom homes, no good male role models, etc.. <br /><br />We have to undo the corruption of our formative years for ourselves. It's useful to compare our formative influences from our childhood with red-pill son-raising advice. Doing so helps to identify what we need to do as adult men to fix the blue-pill factors of our upbringing. Except instead of a parent applying the advice to us, we apply the son-raising advice to ourselves in order to clean out the blue pill and change ourselves to positive masculine men.Ericnoreply@blogger.com