tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post1227660587379721812..comments2024-03-23T13:16:37.006-07:00Comments on Hawaiian libertarian: Most People Are SheepleKeoni Galthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00842553742723239151noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-13913548535789612672010-04-26T15:18:02.317-07:002010-04-26T15:18:02.317-07:00Anon,
'left and right' are hoaxes. The pol...Anon,<br />'left and right' are hoaxes. The politicians are ALL controlled and compromised. The answer is to reduce guvment to the mere role of protecting rights. Period. And if the guvment will not protect rights as sworn peace officers then ignore the present guvment and create a new one. I put a presentation be shaefer cox into the forms on spearhead. He has set up an alernative guvment is fairbanks alaska. This is one way out. We are still awaiting the results of the guardians of the free republics efforts. It is very hopeful since there has been a complete news blackout on their letters to the guvnors after the initial flurry of predictably bad press.globalman100https://www.blogger.com/profile/10756160620132961511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-88814792220685419892010-04-26T15:01:41.998-07:002010-04-26T15:01:41.998-07:00"In most schools now they are teaching the ki..."In most schools now they are teaching the kids to solve math problems in counter-intuitive and complex ways so that they do not learn how do solve problems. They want good sheep who do what they are told. Not ones who can see problems and solve them."<br /><br />Most people call me a leftist - I consider my self a political non-Euclidian, and part of the problem with America is that, spiraling down the toilet to the right, it appears to many that ANY way out (fascist, libertarian, tribal, competitive, you name it - the complete circle) appears to be to the left.<br /><br />That aside, I am 53, in college in America, and find this to be completely true. I am a long-time electronics engineer and science geek, and I swear they are making me not know how to do things I've done since age 10. Whoever is designing the math curriculum is skilled at it, and sensible, intuitive scientists aren't part of their desired output.<br /><br />What is desired is specified quite overtly:<br />1. do what you're told<br /><br />2. believe that this stuff is hard, and being able to do it makes you superior<br /><br />3. believe that this stuff is hard, and people who have memorized more formulas than you are qualitatively superior to you.<br /><br />4. Don't think too much about whether the math connects with reality, that's not your concern. Just do the math.<br /><br />5. You will be employed in large groups, often as large as hundreds, and you will all gain or lose funding together, so there's no percentage in being interested in anything unusual. If you diverge much from the middle of the bell curve (even if the divergence is "better than") you will not FIT IN, and hence will drag down your team's employability. The rest of the team members, of course, are also counseled in this, and are perfectly happy to exert peer pressure to see that the more skilled don't get led off the trail of highest profitability.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-20299220341990138962010-01-17T19:52:11.768-08:002010-01-17T19:52:11.768-08:00John Taylor Gatto is brilliant reading. He not on...John Taylor Gatto is brilliant reading. He not only goes into GREAT depth to diagnose the problem but he suggests workable solutions, and his exploration of the actual history of the problem is very, very, valuable.<br /><br />That and he bothers to rigorously document his claims about the history of modern schooling.<br /><br />I cannot recommend him highly enough, seriously.Kamal S.http://kali-yuga.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-8957315974094093552010-01-13T08:36:34.335-08:002010-01-13T08:36:34.335-08:00In most schools now they are teaching the kids to ...In most schools now they are teaching the kids to solve math problems in counter-intuitive and complex ways so that they do not learn how do solve problems. They want good sheep who do what they are told. Not ones who can see problems and solve them.globalman100https://www.blogger.com/profile/10756160620132961511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-20408285638157422502010-01-13T06:25:20.550-08:002010-01-13T06:25:20.550-08:00Witness how many parents are unable to help their ...<i>Witness how many parents are unable to help their children with their homework...</i><br /><br />So true. I help my daughter with her math. My wife is a college graduate but stopped learning math when they hit fractions. <br /><br />Still, before I help my daughter, I have to read the examples from her book. Showing her how to solve things the way I learned may not help her. Last week, she had to solve a problem using a particular technique that was counter-intuitive and more difficult than the standard method. She asked me, "why would anyone do it this way"? I doubt that anyone would.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-87975768462535295102010-01-12T15:36:19.445-08:002010-01-12T15:36:19.445-08:00Fuck...don't get me started on the 'public...Fuck...don't get me started on the 'public fool system'. School was mostly torture to me. Because I was so smart I always finished any 'work' in about 10-20% of the time allocated. When I asked for more to do please I was always told 'sit there and be quiet'. About 12 fucking years of 'sit there and be quiet'. I really wanted to learn stuff and they refused to teach me any more than was in the 'curriculum'. I knew by the time I was 7 that school was about day care and not about teaching me anything. Fortunately my parents bought the world book encyclopaedias that year and I spent about 4 years reading them in my spare time.<br /><br />When I was 14 I was very much into poetry of the style of W. H Auden and books like 'Lord of the Flies' and '1984'. Boys will be boys. We were given an assignment to write a poem. I worked on mine really hard for over a week. I was very proud of it. I felt it was the best I had ever done. My (female of course) teacher not only gave me zero for it she claimed it was plaugerised and had my put on detention. My denial of that fell on deaf ears, even to the principal. I never wrote another poem. When I was 17 my english teacher harshly criticised me for being 'too realistic'. LOL!<br /><br />I had only 2 good teachers in that public fool system. One of whom I liked so much I visited him for years after I left. He was my physics teacher. He was so enthusiastic about my 'talent' he used to have me teach the physics class. It was no surprise I won the top scholarship in Australia for physics. (I turned it down.) The other good teacher I had taught 3 and 4 unit maths. Towards the end he claimed I had exhausted his ability to teach me new stuff and suggested a couple of the professors at the local college as mentors but we really didn't have the money for that. It was no surprise to me I got the highest mark in my region and was in the top 1%.<br /><br />A kid really has to want to teach himself to be able to come out of the public fool system with his brain in tact even 40 years ago. Now? You have to send the kids to private schools. No option.globalman100https://www.blogger.com/profile/10756160620132961511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-76219217705964905352010-01-11T15:38:14.295-08:002010-01-11T15:38:14.295-08:00Mark, I certainly did not forget...it's just t...Mark, I certainly did not forget...it's just that I've linked to JTG's works many, many times in the past. In this case, I simply wanted to focus on others sources that are saying much the same as JTG...a highlighting of corroboration of sorts.Keoni Galthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00842553742723239151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-89068119837848560742010-01-09T10:14:56.791-08:002010-01-09T10:14:56.791-08:00I went to a pretty good public school, but it was ...I went to a pretty good public school, but it was still bad enough that my siblings were homeschooled. I think the best answer is one my grandfather suggested long ago: Vouchers. Separate public funding of education from public implementation, and the competitive pressure will result in much better schools. If you are interested in advocacy in this area, check out the Friedman Foundation for School Choice.Patri Friedmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00795471439484698201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-74961986720659440972010-01-08T20:46:43.829-08:002010-01-08T20:46:43.829-08:00I can't believe you forgot John Taylor Gatto o...I can't believe you forgot John Taylor Gatto on that list of authors exposing the REAL purpose of public skool...MarkyMarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02710045100037253902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-63431194905869080262010-01-07T14:59:07.585-08:002010-01-07T14:59:07.585-08:00The danger of labeling kids as "intelligent&q...The danger of labeling kids as "intelligent" or "gifted" is recognized by social psychologists:<br /><br />http://www.learning-theories.com/self-theories-dweck.html<br /><br />http://nymag.com/news/features/27840/sfernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-78987734914758443682010-01-07T14:18:11.290-08:002010-01-07T14:18:11.290-08:00What excellent thoughts, KG! Government schools ar...What excellent thoughts, KG! Government schools are <a href="http://thecomingnight.blogspot.com/2009/10/government-schools-are-training-grounds.html" rel="nofollow">training grounds for totalitarian rule</a> and prisons our most precious and vulnerable citizens should not be subjected to. <br /><br />Now off to read the links you have shared.Hestiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01987917145065027448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-50726339087446588732010-01-06T17:53:16.423-08:002010-01-06T17:53:16.423-08:00It's very interesting for me to read this abou...It's very interesting for me to read this about the American public education system. I grew up in a communist country (migrated to Australia) and this entire blogpost of yours describes exactly that socialist education system! Well, minus the Ritalin as they couldn't afford drugs. I remember that older people in my family (we have relatives who live in North America and Europe) saying that such BS waste-of-time education would never happen in America and wish we young ones could be sent there. If only they knew!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-795099617056468572010-01-06T16:34:12.244-08:002010-01-06T16:34:12.244-08:00I'm a retired phys ed teacher from Quebec. Sam...I'm a retired phys ed teacher from Quebec. Same sad thing over here. When I said to my students that their school was their prison, they doubted me !<br />If a teacher dared fight for the spiritual growth of his students, he's ostrasized quickly.<br />The goal for my students: to still (and always !) have their special and unique flames-of-life in their eyes when high scool is finished.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14475068909995805569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-27854276086456291232010-01-06T14:30:33.161-08:002010-01-06T14:30:33.161-08:00Totally agree. Coincidentally, just started perus...Totally agree. Coincidentally, just started perusing Hirsch's "New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy." There's an important distinction b/w literate (can read, but comprehension & learning suffer due to lack of broader foundational knowledge) and culturally literate. I think City Journal or some other blog just had an article on his results (very un-pc and therefore attacked by the libtard crowd, despite his being a lib dem) in a few schools showing massive improvements for students.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-83116042475186338482010-01-06T12:09:03.124-08:002010-01-06T12:09:03.124-08:00hybrid car driving precisely at the speed limit in...<i>hybrid car driving precisely at the speed limit in the left hand lane of the freeway, oblivious to the people behind them trying to pass the even slower senior citizens clogging up the other lanes.</i><br /><br />HAHA. My phrase that defines HI drivers to the T is "the left lane is for driving FAR, not FAST"...I actually think the most courteous drivers I've ever "met" was on the drive from LA to Vegas. <br /><br />All true though - our educational system is clearly biased. Those biases can come from the teacher or from the institution, as well. My younger sister, who's at college, took <b>English 101</b> where the professor was speaking about gender as a social construct. I'm sorry? This is English, not gender studies. The class spent quite awhile on this topic too.<br /><br />So, yes. I agree that the public educational system is just another means to indoctrine the masses.Mr.Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-68137020716348196452010-01-06T09:54:58.942-08:002010-01-06T09:54:58.942-08:00this country was founded, by the efforts of Washin...<i>this country was founded, by the efforts of Washington, Adams, Jefferson, and others. Brilliant, forceful, and principled men. We won't have any semblance of a revolution today because there are no men who act, walk, talk, and think like the forefathers of this country.</i><br /><br />The American Revolution happened because of the efforts of <b>very few men</b>. Then as now, most people were sheeple, and a revolution today would happen not as a result of what the sheeple do or think, but as a result of the efforts of a few brilliant, forceful men. Naturally the goal of the Establishment is to identify and coopt such people long before they even start thinking about Revolution, let alone acting on their thoughts.<br /><br /><i>We learn only those things we genuinely want to learn.</i><br /><br />Eh, I don't necessarily agree with this. Some things must be learned even though we don't "want" to learn them. <br /><br />Most people really don't want to learn anything, of course, and have no business being in school beyond 8th grade.Tarlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-48435392272414127612010-01-06T03:14:21.962-08:002010-01-06T03:14:21.962-08:00Can you imagine how unstable a society would be wi...Can you imagine how unstable a society would be without the majority of its populace in a prole-like stupor? A large proletariat stabilizes a nation like a heavy hull does a yacht. Without them, a country would be in hyper-ventilating chaos at the slightest provocation.<br /><br />Proles, while not terribly loyal to whatever government they have, are not politically motivated enough to switch loyalties elswehere, and so they act as an obstacle to political wannabes. Every government cultivates a large proletariat for its own protection, and ours does it through public education and welfare.<br /><br />If you don't belong amongst the proles, there are only 3 other places you can belong: amongst the rulers or inner party; amongst the outer party - the class that maintains the state; or amongst the subversives - the heretics,rebels and exiles.<br /><br />All states have been organized like this from the beginning of history. Orwell didn't make it up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-80318552963496011372010-01-05T20:44:52.494-08:002010-01-05T20:44:52.494-08:00You might find this interesting, HL
Illiterate Na...You might find this interesting, HL<br /><br /><a href="http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=43308" rel="nofollow">Illiterate Nation: Reedin, Righten, Rithmatic – by Ted Byfield.</a> <br /><br />Btw, I was at the liquor store the other day, and on every damn shelf was a "green sign" saying that the best bag of all is no bag... so, when I got to the cashier, I asked for a bag for my bottle, and also my beer. I was glad to see they were plastic. I mean, really, someone has to keep plastic bag factory workers in a job!<br /><br />I actually do care about the environment and rarely use bags, but, that green shit being shoved down my throat irritates me on so many levels...<br /><br />Excuse me while I let my big V-8 idle in the driveway as I run back inside, take a long Al Bundyish crap, and then wipe my ass with a spotted owl..https://www.blogger.com/profile/00954715060471574125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-17800116689852483792010-01-05T19:54:56.468-08:002010-01-05T19:54:56.468-08:00This reminds of a comment I saw on another message...This reminds of a comment I saw on another message board articulating why there will be no possibility of a revolution in this country: this country was founded, by the efforts of Washington, Adams, Jefferson, and others. Brilliant, forceful, and principled men. We won't have any semblance of a revolution today because there are no men who act, walk, talk, and think like the forefathers of this country. <br /><br />And your post definitively hits on the very reason why. <br /><br />Thank you for such an insightful and memorable post.Keatingnoreply@blogger.com