Friday, January 9, 2009

PUA vs. MGTOW


Before I get into anything else here, I want to make something perfectly clear here: while the topic of this post inherently will be critical of some aspects of the MGTOW movement, I need to say that given the current state of affairs, I absolutely understand that MGTOW is a perfectly reasonable and logical response to the dangers men expose themselves to by getting involved in relationships with the typical Westernized female. In this regards, I completely concur with Stephen Baskerville's advice: Do Not Marry, Do Not Have Children

Marriage is a foundation of civilized life. No advanced civilization has ever existed without the married, two-parent family. Those who argue that our civilization needs healthy marriages to survive are not exaggerating.

And yet I cannot, in good conscience, urge young men to marry today. For many men (and some women), marriage has become nothing less than a one-way ticket to jail. Even the New York Times has reported on how easily the divorce court leads to a jail cell, mostly for men. In fact, if I have one urgent piece of practical advice for young men today it is this: Do not marry and do not have children.


Men Going Their Own Way is in fact simply putting this advice and turning it into a credo. I cannot criticize or fault any man in our current society from taking that path.

However, I must say that I've read plenty of MGTOW bloggers and posters on the various "don't get married" type message boards, and I do think that to some degree, there are a lot of people out there for which MGTOW is not really a conscious decision to avoid getting trapped in the current system...but really an excuse or justification for not being able to have any kind of romantic relationship success with females, period.

This is where I think some of you MGTOW acolytes may want to assess exactly why you are taking the path you are choosing.

As Pook once wrote,
I think it is becoming clear that marriage and children is a natural longing in not just women but men as well. Nature did not intend gender avoidance. I believe generally everyone is repelled by the negative pessimistic tone found on MGTOW. However, people return consistently for a dose of the poison to ease the existential pain (caused by the natural longing of wife and children which is found in every culture and time). Once convinced by the rantings that women are more painful than pleasurable, the male goes off semi-satisfied. But, alas, the natural longing creeps up again causing the male to return.


The biggest reason men I see MGTOW-types cite for avoiding marriage is the very real possibility of the typical American female cashing out once she captures her provider with children so she can have a steady income of alimony and child support.

This is unfortunately a very real possibility - but there is another aspect of this scenario that is usually not mentioned...unless you married a gold digger who's sole intent was to trick you into becoming her wage slave, there are plenty of instances where the man has played a significant role in the demise of his marriage and his subsequent injustices he suffers at the hands of the divorce industry.

We MRA often criticize feminists for avoiding responsibility and blaming everything on men...well, I have to say that in some cases, I see the mirror image in some MGTOW rants and diatribes.

This is why I'm writing this post...because the other side to the MGTOW coin is the PUA....or the Pick Up Artist.

PUA's are well aware of the current misandry and injustice of the system, and have decided that women are simply nothing more than to be used for sexual sport. However, in terms of why I've added a few PUA websites to my blogroll (Roissy in D.C., Roosh V, and The Reality Method,) is because they offer some very keen insights into male/female relational dynamics.

See, as those of you that have been reading my blog for awhile now already know, I was married long before I discovered the MRA blogosphere or became awakened to the realities that our society has become a feminized Matriarchy.

And I had a contentious marriage for a long time, because I thought that following the cultural cues that urge men to "get in touch with their feminine side" and "put her on a pedestal and worship her as a goddess" was the key to making her happy...completely unaware that it was actually a recipe for disaster.

Women raised in our culture don't even know that 95% of them suffer from the cognitive dissonance created by the feminist indoctrination of equality for which they've internalized and consciously adhere to clashing with their biological instincts for hypergamy - to value dominant traits in their prospective mates.

This is EXACTLY why so many MGTOW types are bitter that they're "nice guys" while the ladies they were attracted to and wanted to pursue all went out with the "bad boys" and thugs, and told them "Let's Just Be Friends."

This is how my marriage fell into trouble over the course of several years. I basically became a spineless "beta" that handed my wife my balls and she was very unhappy with me for it. She couldn't respect me and she was falling out of attraction with me. When a women you are married to or involved with no longer finds you attractive - because you do not display adequate traits of dominance - that's when your relationship begins to have 'problems' and she begins to nitpick and employ passive-aggressive conflicts that make your life a living hell...and usually ends up ending the relationship if it goes on for too long.

And the typical man's response when he knows the relationship is going wrong is to escalate the very behaviors that are turning off her attraction for you in the first place! Buy her gifts, take her on vacations, spoil her like a princess, beg her to stay with you...these are all traits that turn off her biological cues of attraction!

Of COURSE, this does not mean a selfish woman is justified in destroying her family by divorcing her husband, and turning into the ex-wife from hell...but I say to you, that a man that makes himself knowledgeable about the biological imperatives that drive women's attraction are far less likely to end up as another ex-husband chained into peonage, because you CAN learn how to keep your long term woman continually attracted to you.

This is why I say the PUA offer some very valuable insights. By reading and studying and than applying the "GAME" techniques the PUA advocate on my own wife, I found that my marriage transformed dramatically. In short, the "GAME" that they advocate men learn so they can score sex is nothing more than understanding what makes women attracted to men on a visceral, instinctual level, and how to interact with them to make them LUST you. You can use "game" to become a player and seek out casual sex...but you can also use it to make your long term relationship thrive. I speak from personal experience.

Because whether you're married, living with a woman, or just dating, once a woman falls out of LUST with you, she falls out of LOVE. Women won't or don't admit it to themselves, but this I tell you is TRUTH.

So if you are a man and you happen to be reading this, and you are in a relationship with a woman, I urge you to do some research on the PUA websites and you may look on your own relationship dynamics and see if perhaps understanding these things can help you succeed.

For me, the biggest help was the following: What is a Shit Test?

Once I understood just what is a shit test, this was the BIGGEST help to my relationship. Hope it can help you like it did for me.

PS - I've dropped a few comments under the name "Dave in Hawaii" over at Roissy's blog. There's been some interesting debates going on when Roissy's post It's Easy to Identify a Slut was linked to by Jezebel.com and the useful idiot feminuts invaded his comment section. Some entertaining reading!

Could They Be Anymore Obvious?




Now why do you think our Federal Government Overlords are so concerned about making sure everyone is prepared for the switch from Analog to Digital TV broadcasting?

Federal subsidized coupons to ensure that even the poorest of the poor can afford to get the converter box for their TV sets...got that?

That's OUR TAX MONEY BEING USED TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE REMAINS PLUGGED INTO THE FEMINAZI-MATRIX!

TV is the primary means of indoctrinating the masses of we the sheeple so as to continue the social engineering goals of our Brave New World Order.

Thursday, January 8, 2009

The NWO End-Game


Three of the European change-agent puppets for the New World Order have all come out in plain language and called for an outright movement towards the One World Government the power-elite have been planning for us for many years now.

The money quote:

Merkel said the International Monetary Fund has not managed to regulate global capitalism, and she called for the creation of an economy body at the United Nations, similar to the Security Council, to judge government policy.

Speaking at the conference, European Competition Commissioner Neelie Kroes said "global rules" on government aid to companies would be "helpful.
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Recall Mayer Amschel Rothschild's infamous quote: "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws."

Things are looking like we are definitely moving into the end-game phase of global governance of our brave new world.

I am absolutely convinced that our current economic crisis has been deliberately caused to further the goals of subverting Western countries sovereignty, nationalism and pride. This is why both legal and illegal immigration from the third world to the first world continues unabated regardless of which political party (Liberal/Conservative...two sides of the same coin) "controls" the government of any nation.

I used to be an avid debater on Internet discussion forums regarding Republican vs. Democrat politics. Through research brought about by delving into the feminist movement's history thanks to the MRA/MGTOW Blogosphere, I've awakened from that state of mind like a hippie coming down from a bad acid trip, to see the stark truth of just how deluded I had been.

The reality is that Both Political Parties Brought Police State to America

“Fascism will come at the hands of perfectly authentic Americans…who are convinced that the present economic system is washed up…and who wish to commit this country to the rule of the bureaucratic state; interfering in the affairs of the states and the cities; taking part in the management of industry and finance and agriculture; assuming the role of a great national banker and investor, borrowing billions every year and spending them on all sorts of projects through which a government can paralyze opposition and command public support; marshaling great armies…at crushing costs to support the industry of war….which will become our greatest industry…adding …global planning …under the authority of a centralized government in which the executive will hold…all the powers, with Congress reduced to the role of a debating society.”

Fascism didn’t come to America wearing jack boots and brown shirts. It came respectably-clad in suits and ties and calling itself Republicans and Democrats.

The fascism basecoat was laid with each government intervention in the free market system, each undeclared and unconstitutional war and every single incursion by the state into private enterprises like banking and auto manufacturing. And both the R’s and the D’s were behind it all.

As we watched the basecoat dry we continued to allow the incremental creeping toward fascism by electing those who made no secret of their plans to redistribute wealth, make the state the boss of us and dismantle the free enterprise system.


The NWO agenda is also why feminism is the ascendant paradigm in every first world country - the more feminist a country, the more the population control agenda is instilled, the less nuclear families are formed, the more dependent and easily controlled wards of the state are created amongst the sheeple.

Soon to come under the Obama regime...the total devaluation of the US Dollar, the implementation of the Amero, and the formation of the American Union - all coming from the inevitable State and US Constitutional Conventions that will once and for all kill the experiment in freedom and individual liberty started by the Founding Fathers.