tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post7024784806636610618..comments2024-03-23T13:16:37.006-07:00Comments on Hawaiian libertarian: Avoiding the Fate of the AMCKeoni Galthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00842553742723239151noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-30336874509895204262015-05-06T17:29:59.022-07:002015-05-06T17:29:59.022-07:00...got married before we knew better (such as myse...<b>...got married before we knew better (such as myself)...</b><br /><br />That's my story too. I was a textbook case of what to do wrong: Aging carousel rider? Check. Alpha widow? Check. Baby Rabies? Check. Proven disloyal? Check (Walked out on first marriage because she wasn't haaappy.) But he is right, we don't need our brothers to keep telling us what we did wrong: we have our wives for that. I came to the Red Pill later in life (late 50s), so I can't just "start over" as I could have in my 30s or even 40s. I have to recognize that some ships have sailed. That is why learning Red Pill truths late in life is a very bittersweet experience. The best I can do is teach younger men about my mistakes so that hopefully they will be able to avoid them.Robert What?https://www.blogger.com/profile/03863449539859132763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-72076184965486830292015-05-05T15:15:36.216-07:002015-05-05T15:15:36.216-07:00It's a helpless feeling, Keoni. They are close...It's a helpless feeling, Keoni. They are close family members. She teases that they are on the "quarterly plan" - and then, because she's 10 years my senior and married 7 years longer than we are, she goes on with the condescending "you'll understand someday, your needs will change too." I wonder if she's noticed yet that there is a distinct difference between our marriage (at my new Over 40 age)than theirs when she joined the Over 40 club. She and her husband are great friends with each other and committed parenting partners - but it just breaks my heart that he has become the joke in the family of the sexless man. SarahsDaughterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11070845597474113030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-6512504825058958222015-05-05T12:44:44.252-07:002015-05-05T12:44:44.252-07:00That's a great point about the difference betw...That's a great point about the difference between lust and eros, Lena. I shall try to keep that in mind next time I write about the topic.<br /><br /><i>One so much that the wife redefined intimacy to not include sex at all, that she was satisfied with their kind of "intimacy" they share taking care of their children. The husband had a blank stare on his face.</i><br /><br />I don't think the negligent, contemptuous wife has any clue about the storm of emotions that were hidden behind that blank stare. <br /><br />Keoni Galtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-19389997693496177842015-05-05T12:05:27.658-07:002015-05-05T12:05:27.658-07:00@Sarah's Daughter
Do you agree that if a wife...@Sarah's Daughter<br /><br /><i>Do you agree that if a wife can rule her husband her desire for him will diminish?</i><br /><br />Definitely. <br /><br /><i>she was satisfied with their kind of "intimacy" they share taking care of their children</i><br /><br />Yeesh. Wow wee, eh? I doubt she was really satisfied but that's the hamster talking. It's a way around having to admit that she doesn't find her husband attractive, yet she knows it and he knows it... The old ticking time bomb there. Lena S.https://notequalbutdifferent.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-53085948236214584382015-05-05T11:47:44.185-07:002015-05-05T11:47:44.185-07:00That makes sense, Lena S.
Do you agree that if a...That makes sense, Lena S. <br /><br />Do you agree that if a wife can rule her husband her desire for him will diminish? <br /><br /><i>Those that promote the absence of Eros in a marriage so that they have a "higher"form of love are clueless, since their love will no longer be complete.</i><br /><br />We've talked with couples whose marriages are demonstrably led by the wife and asked about their intimate lives. It was evident with the women that there was nothing within her that desired her husband or wanted unity with him. One so much that the wife redefined intimacy to not include sex at all, that she was satisfied with their kind of "intimacy" they share taking care of their children. The husband had a blank stare on his face.SarahsDaughterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11070845597474113030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-80295584415948601202015-05-05T06:39:03.088-07:002015-05-05T06:39:03.088-07:00I'm just going to disagree on lust. It took m...I'm just going to disagree on lust. It took me forever to learn this one, and 7man gave me the simple explanation of the difference between lust and strong desire. Lust is the will to use someone else - it is utilitarian and separate from love. Desire is more of a full sexual urge that isn't totally self-centred - it is wanting unity with the other rather than solely gratifying a sexual urge but includes that gratification in its proper place. <br /><br />Lust is a sin, therefore, there cannot be "good lust" anymore than there can be "good covetousness" or "good gluttony". Eros is the physical aspect of love/desire. It is not "bad love", which is what many people equate it with. Love between spouses includes Eros. Those that promote the absence of Eros in a marriage so that they have a "higher"form of love are clueless, since their love will no longer be complete. To equate Eros with only lust minimises the erotic to the pornographic and there is so much more to human sexuality rightly ordered than a utilitarian bumping of uglies.Lena S.http://notequalbutdifferent.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-50591641798944280482015-05-04T10:53:37.205-07:002015-05-04T10:53:37.205-07:00This is one of the best articles on marriage I'...This is one of the best articles on marriage I've seen yet in the mannosphere. Absolutely foundational.<br /><br />You must be the man and in charge. A woman will follow a real man to hell and back. Assuming you didn't start with a damaged woman anyway. But it doesn't matter how good a family she comes from if you're not a man, there will be problems; even if its 'just' a dead bedroom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-34372140399365156592015-05-04T05:22:08.573-07:002015-05-04T05:22:08.573-07:00I'm glad you reposted this. Some of the advic...I'm glad you reposted this. Some of the advice her is rather valuable as I've heard a bit about marriage game through guys like Dalrock, but this gives a good summary as to some idea of what that actually is. <br /><br />Eventually, I'd like to get married. The pool of marriageable girls though isn't exactly as large as it was in New Spain, but I think there may be some still in the Church. <br /><br />I still want pre-marital sex however, because once you start getting it, you don't want to stop. That makes it even slimmer in pickings. armenia4everhttp://banterloud.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-31112211476059712552015-05-03T20:40:46.927-07:002015-05-03T20:40:46.927-07:00Remember: NO woman respects a man she can rule. An...<i>Remember: NO woman respects a man she can rule. Any man she can rule, is a man she will have contempt for. Any man she has contempt for, she simply cannot lust. And if she doesn’t lust you, she certainly will not “love” you.</i><br /><br />This, unfortunately, is a stumbling block for Christian women. "We're not supposed to lust." - It is excruciatingly difficult to get a good Christian girl to admit the truth to her innermost workings. Yes, it is lust (Eros) and it is necessary. If she is committed to obeying God in giving herself freely to her husband, that is a good step. However, we all suck and Satan will use whatever means possible to drive a wedge between husbands and wives. Year after year of having temptation to judge our husbands wears on us. Wears us down. That "oh so Christian" perspective gets diluted and really, really boring. A good Christian wife gets to the point where if she hears her husband quote one more scripture (without having done a thing to make her giddy about him) she is just going to throw up. The temptation takes over and her thoughts turn to contempt. He is then having sex with a mindless robot who just wants him to do his business and be done. The contempt becomes all consuming. <br /><br />I strongly believe that she can make her way out of this and in the promise of 1 Peter 3* the marriage will turn around. She <i>has</i> to repent of her rebellion and maintain the faith 1 Peter 3 speaks of. <br /><br />If a man is married to a woman who hasn't yet surrendered to this type of obedience, this advice is VERY helpful! <br /><br />*1 Peter 3 - even if her husband does not obey the Word - in this case, a woman who can rule her husband is a woman married to someone who is not obeying the Word.SarahsDaughterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11070845597474113030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-7240235453529635042015-05-03T18:15:38.652-07:002015-05-03T18:15:38.652-07:00Glad to see all the new posts. I rarely comment bu...Glad to see all the new posts. I rarely comment but I check this site every day for the blog roll and have been delighted to see original posts. Keep up the good work :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com