tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post686191497865440594..comments2024-03-23T13:16:37.006-07:00Comments on Hawaiian libertarian: Game the SystemKeoni Galthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00842553742723239151noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-69771365662384618682014-01-21T13:41:30.202-08:002014-01-21T13:41:30.202-08:00"We agree on this much - whether you go to cl..."We agree on this much - whether you go to class or read about it in a book on the web, you still have to DO. Your specific counter-argument you gave to Free Northerner was that he was looking for a system and that you can't codify a system out of art."<br /><br />Keoni,<br /><br />I would say that it is a mix of both. Adam Lyon's has a book called Attraction Explained that does a pretty decent job of laying out the basics. Ultimately, I can tell you only one thing. Any man on the internet who tells you this stuff doesn't work is a man who lacks the ability to get up and try. I have taught over 20 men this stuff and have literally stopped posting anywhere because I find it a waste of time. Men learn by action and I can't take them out and hold their hands, so they just never bother to get off their butts and go do something. Game is real and many of the men I have taught it to have seen their Christian walks grow by leaps and bounds. Go check out Adams book. You can't teach it precisely to every man, because we are all different, but the basics are the same for everyone. Joseph of Jacksonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-47495701550515549322014-01-21T01:17:50.495-08:002014-01-21T01:17:50.495-08:00good post - what do you think about mormonism, whi...good post - what do you think about mormonism, which strongly emphasizes the traditional gender roles with the father being the head of the family?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-13647022827085649682014-01-20T16:46:48.105-08:002014-01-20T16:46:48.105-08:00Baker:
I like the way you Gamecocks reflexively ...Baker:<br /> I like the way you Gamecocks reflexively descend into feminist Shaming Language. It shows your true colors as pro-feminists.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwwHk3MymkA&feature<br /><br />"The PUA/Gamer Community is grounded in the oppositional binary of sexual winners vs. sexual losers...the grubby little secret is that PUAs are controlled by women. That is the only conclusion you can draw about men who make the pursuit of sexual power socially mandatory."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-37127362320589530692014-01-19T19:32:03.349-08:002014-01-19T19:32:03.349-08:00@Bobby
Feminism is the woman getting the power ov...@Bobby<br /><br />Feminism is the woman getting the power over men that every woman since Eve *thought* she wanted. But when they get it, they hate it. They are never happy unless they are well ruled. Sluts are often too damaged to take well to it with one man for too long, but even for those broken and damaged ones, it's still the only thing that gives them any peace at all. <br /><br />Women *need* to be led. There's a good book cslled the Bible that covers that, though it's pretty vague about the how-to end of the business. <br /><br />Ruling a woman is the opposite of feminism. Making a woman happy is the opposite of feminism. Feminism is women trying to take the male role. Feminism is about denying them what they need, and substituting what they think they want. Feminism is retarded, childish nonsense. <br /><br />The problem with feminism is not that it makes women happy -- it doesn't. The problem is that it makes both men and women miserable. <br /><br />Where did you learn about women? Nowhere. I suggest that you STFU because you are shooting your mouth off on a subject about which you have zero knowledge. Zero. You know nothing. No experience, no knowledge, nothing. Tell me about compiler optimizations next, then organic chemistry. Maybe Hopi verb tenses. You're equally well informed. <br /><br />This is your masterpiece, Caldo: A dating expert who's never even held a girl's hand.Steve Bakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-48914161069102268392014-01-19T12:47:23.869-08:002014-01-19T12:47:23.869-08:00@ Steve Baker: Feminism is the woman on the pedest...@ Steve Baker: Feminism is the woman on the pedestal; that is all it is. Anything else that one might think it is is just smoke and mirrors, deception. Why is the woman elevated? So that she is prominently seen so that she may be serviced. And what does game teach except how a man may better service the woman by giving to her her true heart's desire? Never been any good at sitting down and shutting up. Why would anyone tell another debater to do that? Bobbyenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-48440917298171771452014-01-19T12:01:25.237-08:002014-01-19T12:01:25.237-08:00What I found, for myself, was a similar path, but ...What I found, for myself, was a similar path, but from a slightly different angle. I grew up Agnostic (nominally Protestant) to Hippy parents. Ergo, I haven't seen much of the inside of Churches, being there far more often shooting a wedding than attending myself.<br /><br />Having spent a long time in the MRM and growing bored with the whole infighting thing, I started watching Alex Jones on You Tube. And RT. And AMTV. Funny how Google News barely mentioned most of the stuff I KNEW was happening...<br /><br />Of course, in You Tube if you watch Alex Jones, the sidebar has links to tons of Biblical Prophecy videos. Which, being a curious guy, I explored.<br /><br />I've always been more or less curious about the Supernatural, Religion, the Bible, and all that stuff. I've never seen a contradiction between Science and Religion outside of interpretation of 'facts' based on Dogma (on both sides). And I don't discount Conspiracy Theory just because it sounds too crazy to be true.<br /><br />Out of that, I have become 100% convinced, on emotional as well as logical levels, that the Bible is Truth, that Jesus Christ really did and does exist and did the things described, and did them for the reasons He said He did them for.<br /><br />When I was a kid, the very idea of Christianity being mocked was so alien, I basically dismissed the Bible (or at least Revelations) out of hand. Beheaded? No way in Hell.<br /><br />Now, we see Christians throughout the Middle East being beheaded, using the exact same 'justification' detailed in a book written 2000+ years ago.<br /><br />I won't get into all of the stuff I think connects, but there is one concept I would like to throw out there for the more Scholarly among us.<br /><br />I watched a video in which it was posited the Whore of Babylon referred to in the Bible, is Islam, being a descendant Religion of the original Tower of Babel.<br /><br />This 'false religion' is a dualistic one, with a god and goddess figure, the deities klnown throughout the ages as Baal/Ashteroth, Osiris/Isis, Apollo/Diana, etc. Jere's the link to the vid, it's interesting...<br /><br />http://youtu.be/uY20IFaWlsQ<br /><br />Anyway, I don't think it's an accident that Feminism has adopted the Ankh (the symbol of Isis) as one of their main symbols, nor is their similarity to Shariah Law in outlook.<br /><br />Taken separately it's all a bunch of hogwash. Put it together, though, and a lot of really outlandish things are happening right before our eyes.Factoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339614725666249518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-47306425901729461672014-01-19T09:19:20.126-08:002014-01-19T09:19:20.126-08:00Good stuff, Keoni. The churches are full of idols ...Good stuff, Keoni. The churches are full of idols ready to be toppled. We are commanded to tear down the Asherah poles, drive out the idolaters, and to stay out of congregations who refuse to obey God and to teach his commandments. <br /><br />Light 'em up. Welcome to the Reformation of Men.jay chttp://www.historycarper.com/wordpressnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-31476537999356350442014-01-19T07:37:55.126-08:002014-01-19T07:37:55.126-08:00Let's remember how this started: Caldo says me...Let's remember how this started: Caldo says men should learn game only from the Bible, because it's an art that can't be learned or taught, like painting (which is taught and learned). <br /><br />That's preposterous and pernicious nonsense in multiple interrelated ways. Everything since then has been Caldo throwing out distractions, changing the subject, contradicting himself, and racing the goalposts around the field to avoid having to back down from an utterly indefensible position.<br /><br />First he says it's all in the Bible, easy to find. Then he says OK, it isn't, but nobody needs a wife anyway. <br /><br />His position, in effect, adds up to "learn nothing, only do what comes naturally". <br /><br />That's not a fit creed for men, not even for women. It's not even fit for dogs or cats. It certainly is not Christian. <br /><br />@Mr. Music Ass,<br /><br />List the successful records you've made or admit you're an internet braggart. <br /><br />Most musicians I've known are amateur rock guys, who can improvise and jam well enough for the whole band to enjoy themselves. They've taken lessons and benefitted a lot from it. Formally trained musicians are a joke, sure. But you don't have to be a great "virtuoso" to lead in your marriage. It's not Carnegie Hall. You need to be good enough to keep the groove together. Damn near anybody can learn that. You don't need to be Casanova to get a girl. You need to know how not to screw it up. <br /><br />All either of you two want to do is keep turning the subject back to how great you want everybody to think you are. Stroke your ego if you must, but do it in private and flush the kleenex when you're done. Don't show it to the world. Steve Bakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-58654938896106400312014-01-19T07:28:00.646-08:002014-01-19T07:28:00.646-08:00I've been a Catholic my whole life so I only s...I've been a Catholic my whole life so I only saw things one way. This actually can be a form of blindness. It took those degenerate cads to show me life in another way and cement my faith in Jesus. Look at the parable of how the the lost son and the righteous son reacted to their father as an example.<br /><br />Game is not my gospel...it is just a thing that is available that I can choose to use or not. What it did was make the Gospel much clearer.<br /><br />Seek truth...not the vagina.<br /><br />earlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-70917228593154024412014-01-19T07:16:07.564-08:002014-01-19T07:16:07.564-08:00One of the major themes of feminism is that whatev...One of the major themes of feminism is that whatever a girl finds to be the path of least resistance is "right for her" and nobody should be allowed to suggest that there's a better way. All you're supposed to do is validate her. Just keep telling her it's everybody's fault but hers that her life is a (perfectly predictable) mess. <br /><br />The feminists are idiots, but they're just women and you can't expect them to be as strong as men. <br /><br />That's their excuse. It's s piss-poor one. <br /><br />But what's your excuse, Bobbye?<br /><br />The most important thing in a relationship is male leadership (which is an improvable skill, whether or not that fact makes Cane Caldo and Mr Natural Musician Royal Ass feel as special as they wish they were). It's a necessary condition for domestic harmony, sex, and much else. <br /><br />Bobbye, you've never been in a healthy relationship. You know nothing about it. Sit down and shut up. It's time for you to listen to men who have been there and done that. <br /><br />And it's time for Caldo to quit selling feminist-style unearned validation to these damaged men. They do not need to be encouraged to retreat into their pain and give up. <br /><br />The shorter Cane Caldo: "Better you than me, loser." Ditto Wallace and the rest of the Crab Bucket Gang. If lying to men who need the truth makes you feel "manly", you have the soul of a woman. "You'd look sooo cute with a pixie cut" -- said the desperate dumpy girl to her rival. <br />Steve Bakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-72950389702691515432014-01-19T06:35:31.264-08:002014-01-19T06:35:31.264-08:00Congratulations on your so called red-pill birth. ...Congratulations on your so called red-pill birth. You are now fully a woman whose 'desire' is to your wife, and her pussy rules over you. By agreeing that sex is the most important aspect of relationship, you reinforce the feminized culture. Such a point of view does not come from God. You have made yourself the foolish young man without 'heart' following the 'strange woman', even if it is your wife. Wisdom is at every corner, calling you to better things. Pussy is nowhere near the top of the list.Bobbyenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-57474406656047205932014-01-18T12:25:13.755-08:002014-01-18T12:25:13.755-08:00Of all the articles I have read by you, this is th...Of all the articles I have read by you, this is the hammer that hit the nail on the head.<br /><br />As a "natural" musician, (child prodigy type, yada yada) I have been surrounded my entire life by "dot readers". (the equivalent of "system learners") To them, music is a series of dots on a page, or following note for note a guitar tab, or a youtube video (place hand on this fret, play here for your favorite song) But when you ask them to just play what they heard or to orchestrate the entire piece or instantly recall what they heard, or to play with 'feel'....they fall like dominoes. They ask over and over again, "how do you do this? "How do you do that?".... I spend most of my professional career wasting my time showing than playing. It USED to be something I liked to do. Now, after forty years of this, they are a pain in my royal ass. The funny thing is, if I DON'T spoon feed every one of them, they like to pretend that I'M the problem. <br /><br />"Game" for me is that very much like that. The equivalent would be the scene in Amadeus when the Emperor (who was tone deaf) says to Amadeus that his Opera would be perfect if he just took out a few notes.... To which Mozart replied "Which notes did you have in mind, sire"?? <br /><br />Keep it up... This was one of your best.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-48257593499952593742014-01-18T09:44:09.714-08:002014-01-18T09:44:09.714-08:00"I do often wonder how a religion whose found...<br />"I do often wonder how a religion whose founder explicitly frustrates every masculine impulse and presents the Mother of God as ever virgin can be considered patriarchal."<br /><br />Are you talking about Jesus, who beat people with a whip, or St. Paul, who said sissies and effeminates would not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16046202647270439670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-28490403313449345842014-01-18T08:18:50.684-08:002014-01-18T08:18:50.684-08:00The "wrongness" of the churches is the w...The "wrongness" of the churches is the worst part. While Cane is correct that the Bible has all sorts of lessons about the fallen nature of women and how to behave, the churches don't teach that.<br /><br />The teach women as the "spiritual head of the household" I have heard that phrase in catholic and protestant churches a like.<br /><br />It is an abomination. They are apostate.<br /><br />Church takes a person farther from God, not closer.Ras Al Ghulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-19697924285118779912014-01-18T06:53:43.234-08:002014-01-18T06:53:43.234-08:00The Bible gives advice that is good during any poi...The Bible gives advice that is good during any point in history. We as humans haven't changed much at all...it is the world that has changed.<br /><br />Game is a system or bits of advice meant to explain what is going on during THIS particular point in history. Are we aware of another time where feminism was like this, the propaganda was in such full force...or another time where hormonal birth control was in such rampant use?<br /><br />earlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-35672527245508525812014-01-18T04:25:39.466-08:002014-01-18T04:25:39.466-08:00With all due respect to my RCC Red-Pillers, I like...With all due respect to my RCC Red-Pillers, I liken the so-called "Christian manosphere" to a Reformation of sorts.<br /><br />The problem isn't that the Bible doesn't address the issues of marriage and how husband and wife should relate to each other in practice. Rather, it has been abandoned and rationalized away in favor of a more palatable, "world-friendly" system.<br /><br />When the word "submission" is either spit upon or laughed at lightly as something as outdated as a telephone party line, reformation is in order. When <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+21%3A9&version=ESV" rel="nofollow">the message to men to avoid certain types of women</a> is not taught and/or completely ignored, reformation is in order.<br /><br />The message is there in the Scriptures, clearly. It just needs to be recovered, embraced, and taught. In practice it will look wildly counter-cultural, even in so-called "Bible-believing, evangelical" churches that deny they have capitulated to Western feminism (I can't wait to see the reactions when I get married and my wife comes to Sunday worship with a head covering!) Whether it is taught from the pulpit or not, it must be spoken of among ourselves and taught in our homes to our children.<br /><br />Martin Luther stated that the church must always be reforming ("semper reformanda") because of our inclination to stray from God's self-revelation and to capitulate to the larger culture in various ways. So, Red-Pill Christians, let's keep our nose to the grindstone of reformation.<br /><br />LongLostFriendnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-45214328338364297952014-01-18T03:24:00.101-08:002014-01-18T03:24:00.101-08:00Keoni,
Welcome back to Jesus Christ. You have com...Keoni,<br /><br />Welcome back to Jesus Christ. You have completed the journey.<br /><br />BeeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-64442161834533493872014-01-17T23:08:24.990-08:002014-01-17T23:08:24.990-08:00Very compelling post; however, I do often wonder h...Very compelling post; however, I do often wonder how a religion whose founder explicitly frustrates every masculine impulse and presents the Mother of God as ever virgin can be considered patriarchal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-48517212351330482982014-01-17T20:31:50.749-08:002014-01-17T20:31:50.749-08:00I think, once again, we're simply disagreeing ...<i>I think, once again, we're simply disagreeing on semantics, but really the substance.</i><br /><br />EDIT - I meant "...<b>not</b> really the substance."Keoni Galtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-37135434045124292812014-01-17T20:30:28.331-08:002014-01-17T20:30:28.331-08:00I think we agree. You have to go to art class. I d...<i>I think we agree. You have to go to art class. I didn't say they can't be learned; I said you can't learn them by reading blogs or a book.</i><br /><br />We agree on this much - whether you go to class or read about it in a book on the web, you still have to DO. Your specific counter-argument you gave to Free Northerner was that he was looking for a system and that you can't codify a system out of art.<br /><br />I think, once again, we're simply disagreeing on semantics, but really the substance.<br /><br />@ Chris - <i>Because us with sons need to teach them how to subvert the femispace and become men, not limp wristed hipsters. </i><br /><br />Amen.Keoni Galtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-75697518640770379262014-01-17T20:18:15.666-08:002014-01-17T20:18:15.666-08:00Keoni,
You do realize that this is pretty much w...Keoni, <br /><br />You do realize that this is pretty much what Proverbs does? A book, interestingly, that is NOT preached, with all the bits about following a foriegn or strange woman will lead to destruction.<br /><br />And your analysis is spot on. Masculinity used to be learned by apprenticeship: so, by the way, did being a lady.<br /><br />The consequences, of course, are being discussed at SSM's, Cane's Dalrocks and even my place lately. <br /><br />Because us with sons need to teach them how to subvert the femispace and become men, not limp wristed hipsters. Chrishttp://blog.pukeko.net.nznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-4891318454784571152014-01-17T19:56:28.934-08:002014-01-17T19:56:28.934-08:00Good post. Thank you.
Churches refuse to teach t...Good post. Thank you.<br /><br />Churches refuse to teach the "difficult, hard" Bible passages about men, women, dominance, submission, bearing children, keeping house, divorce & remarriage, etc..<br /><br />BeeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-54777111014719746882014-01-17T19:54:40.888-08:002014-01-17T19:54:40.888-08:00"You want to learn how to paint? You go to ar...<i>"You want to learn how to paint? You go to art class where you learn and practice a variety of different brush strokes and blending of colors in a systematic fashion. You want to learn how to fight? You go to boxing or martial arts class and learn a number of drills and techniques in a systematic fashion.</i><br /><br />I think we agree. You have to <i>go</i> to art class. I didn't say they can't be learned; I said you can't learn them by reading blogs or a book.<br /><br />This isn't even an area of disagreement between myself and those who profess Game.Cane Caldohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05086160238694226488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-77401180747903376442014-01-17T18:47:13.272-08:002014-01-17T18:47:13.272-08:00Great post. I thought it was going to be more alon...Great post. I thought it was going to be more along the lines of Captain Capitalism's "Enjoying the decline," where you would be advocating taking as many government benefits as possible, but I enjoyed it nonetheless. I laugh at the criticism of these Churchian women. It's so true, they are ridiculous with their self-serving baloney they fling around. <br /><br />I left the U.S.S.A. Only going back to take my girl to Hawaii. I've always wanted to go. I keep holding off though because I'm worried the TSA is going to grope us. I don't want those perverts touching her. I don't want to go through those radiation scanners either. Sigh...Land of the free my ass. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-41755795928660684882014-01-17T18:42:49.269-08:002014-01-17T18:42:49.269-08:00danny, true. "Doing" is how you come to ...danny, true. "Doing" is how you come to "being."<br /><br />lolzolzolz<br /><br />I'm very familiar with your stance and arguments on this topic, Eric. We'll just have to agree to disagree here.<br /><br />I'll just say this: I certainly do not pretend I'm "in charge" of my home. Before I figured out this "game" thing, my wife's hamster was in charge of my home, and that almost ended in disaster. Believe me, I learned this thing the hard way. No matter what arguments you may raise with me, it's simply not going to convince me that my personal experiences are somehow wrong.Keoni Galtnoreply@blogger.com