tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post6372681792014046843..comments2024-03-23T13:16:37.006-07:00Comments on Hawaiian libertarian: Our Dysfunctional Society was Deliberately Designed That WayKeoni Galthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00842553742723239151noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-48240826848529031702010-03-02T22:12:53.267-08:002010-03-02T22:12:53.267-08:001. The problem with calling it conspiracy is that ...1. The problem with calling it conspiracy is that while conspiracy is a valid criminal category, with a legal definition, many people have a conditioned in knee jerk reaction to the term itself. The more highly educated one is, often, the more prone to this knee jerk reaction one tends to be. This reaction is not without its utility. Extraordinary claims require substantial proof, however when it comes to matters of collusion and conspiracy, most practical minded individuals ratchet up their standards for proof considerably. This is, I think, linked to perceptions of intellectual and social respectability and perceptions of "common sense"<br /><br />2."Its the deliberate de-culturalizing and dumbing down of human beings......both culling the populace and creating debt-slaves."<br /><br />And the thing is that, not only are these rather old processes, but they have often been documented, in some cases broadly without detail and in a way opening the door for plausible deniability an debunking, but in some cases in considerable detail in the writing of certain intellectual cliques - certainly in terms of stated goals and ends desired, and to a lesser degree in biographies and memoirs of planners and other complicit individuals. In some cases such literature is written on multiple levels, to ensure a degree of deniability, but in some other cases intentions, goals, strategies, and proposed means may be written with surprising candor.<br /><br />One problem is a lack of academic rigor on the part of discontents, folks seeking to expose the ostensible fallout of various deliberate actions taken in accordance with the agendas being discussed. There is a need to research and write on some things with greator rigor.<br /><br />Another problem lies in self identity and, as someone mentioned above, the tendency to blame the other and find scapegoats.<br /><br />Sensible minded people have a tendency to take people, perceived as being 'close' to them, at their words unless obvious signs of mendacity pop up. Folks also have a tendency to assume the worst of individuals outside their circles, in particular when historical grievances and resentments exist. <br /><br />Blacks and Whites, Liberals and Conservatives, Right wingers and left wingers, Egalitarian diversity minded people and Elitists, all will display certain tendencies to discount some arguments and support others almost reflexively. One notices this from Progressive blogs to HBD blogs alike, tendencies to argue from authority, support and cheerlead those articulating the group party line, and shame those dissenting from the same.<br /><br />Group think is death. It is comfortable, but it is dangerous and distorts reality.<br /><br />There is a video recording of a KGB defector interviewed by the same guy who wrote "The Creature from Jackal Island" in which he discusses cultural and social subversion. It's quite good. It would be good, while watching it, to remember that this defector certainly may have his own agendas, or his sources may have. <br /><br />Cultivating the ability to perceive broader contexts in which culture battles and wars, and political action, take place is a useful thing. Paranoia is a counterproductive thing. Trusting fellow partisans on the bases of assumed commonality of goals, shared history, and worldviews may be a mistake if the individuals you are trusting are somehow compromised.<br /><br />The other fellow believes in his shit as much as, if not more than, you do. People yearn for certitude where none can possibly be obtained, and in the areas where certitude is possible many people have a tendency to simply fall back on conditioned bias.<br /><br />I could throw out 50 other truisms, but won't.Kamal S.http://kali-yuga.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-1632973991660033612010-03-02T22:11:33.778-08:002010-03-02T22:11:33.778-08:00Dave, you recommend some kick ass books. In partic...Dave, you recommend some kick ass books. In particular the Deliberate Dumbing Down of America is a good read for skeptics, because it's mostly simple government documentation gathered by the author.<br /><br />I dare anyone to honestly read "Tragedy and Hope", "Wall Street and the rise of the Bolsheviks", "Wall street and the Rise of Hitler", "The Anglo-American Establishment", "The Best Enemy That Money Can Buy", "By Means of Deception", "The Other Side of Deception" and not at least reconsider certain possibilities based on a reading of those books. Possibilities that geopolitics may run under slightly different rules than we are used to considering.<br /><br />Then read The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America, The Underground History of American Education, and Weapons of Mass Instruction<br /><br />Honestly read them, if you honestly have a care about the direction your society is going in.<br /><br />I know there are skeptical minds out there, and don't expect anyone to simply take something remarkable at face value, but it's a sign of intellectual weakness to reflexively dismiss certain lines of thought out of hand without at least thoroughly examining their truth claims. Out of the books above two authors were professional educators or dept. of education insiders, Two were academics, professors, one was extremely prestigious and in some ways a Washington DC insider (though he disliked the term insider being used for him) and one was a member of the Secret Services of one of America's closest allies.<br /><br />Sometimes we have to define our terms carefully, popular culture defines certain words for us and this condition sour usage of them<br /><br />Underneath what some people call the "NWO" there are ideas and concepts that should be looked at and examined, individually and in context, this is not to say that the world is run by Communist Reptiles who like to sacrifice little children on alters upholstered by the tanned skins of aborted fetuses. it is, however, to suggest that the world may run in somewhat different ways than we are accustomed to considering.<br /><br />0. Leo Strauss the philosopher used to console some students to remain vigilant to the fact that the enlightenment era thinkers they were reading were writing on 2 or 3 different levels, at least, and using - in an informal way - a coded mode of speech. That there was a reception of the text by properly educated readers that would be considerably different from the way in which the general public received the text. This was done due to political concerns. There were also other levels on which the text could be read. T<br /><br />his kind of thinking is anathema to many guys with a solid background in the hard sciences, it's also anathema to the run of the mill liberals. I have next to me "Training for Change Agents: A guide to the design of training programs in education and other fields" by R.G. Havelock and M.C. Havelock. Picked it up in a box of free books at my old university's psych department while the professors were cleaning shelves. Also grappled a number of books on classroom applications of operant conditioning. And a couple of goodies by James Bryant Conant.<br /><br />All of these books presuppose certain assumptions and educational training on the part of the reader. Allusions that may seem dry and clinical actually can explicitly call to mind certain key bits of knowledge the reader would have obtained at a certain level in her education. Such books are part of a larger set of conversations, wider intellectual discourses that often take place against a background of academic Marxism. People from outside certain fields are liable either to make a Knee Jerk reaction against "academic socialist commie pinkos" or just simply keep walking and not be aware that there is anything of interest in the pages.Kamal S.http://kali-yuga.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-1880539694849577632010-03-01T22:53:31.381-08:002010-03-01T22:53:31.381-08:00"HERDED by lies, propaganda, half-truths and ..."HERDED by lies, propaganda, half-truths and disinformation. Himmler could only dream of the level of control over We the Sheeple's minds that today's social engineers exercise on the masses."<br /><br /><br /><br />I feel the same way. <br /><br /><br />The deliberate building of a matriarchy through single-mommy-underwriting-welfare-programs and gender-quotas and taxpayer-funded-faux-jobs (in education, in non-profits, in bogus charities, etc) destroys the family.<br />Fathers are the conduit of culture, and removing the father from the home (or undermining him with bogus laws), removes the conduit of culture so that a new culture can be propagandized in his place through the entertainment media/educatrocray. <br /><br />Its the deliberate de-culturalizing and dumbing down of human beings......both culling the populace and creating debt-slaves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-59250293455473723812010-02-18T14:02:02.022-08:002010-02-18T14:02:02.022-08:00Anon 67 - Great hearing from you again! Glad every...Anon 67 - Great hearing from you again! Glad everything is working out for you down in Mexico.<br /><br />ChicagoMan - Welcome back to the blogosphere! I'm "re-adding" you to my blogroll! Cheers to the original Rebel Against the Feminazi Blitzkrieg!!!! :)Keoni Galthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00842553742723239151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-57809592951928941712010-02-18T11:13:00.556-08:002010-02-18T11:13:00.556-08:00Good post.
By the way HL, I'm back and bloggi...Good post.<br /><br />By the way HL, I'm back and blogging again, although now I will focus on all the frauds in our daily lives perpetrated by the NWO.<br />truthformen.blogspot.com<br /><br />ChicagomanChicagoManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08504318488317462914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-49891340202595944762010-02-17T09:21:22.884-08:002010-02-17T09:21:22.884-08:00This is exactly why historically affluent people d...This is exactly why historically affluent people did not consider their children educated until they had lived in a different society for a year or two. Only when you live in a culture dramatically different from your own can you begin to understand your own culture.<br /><br />I can tell you, living in Mexico taught me more about the nonsense in the US than living in the US all my life.<br /><br />And, you are right about wasting time trying to change other's viewpoints. Which is why I recommend my Get The H*** Out program. I spent years of my life trying to get men to understand what was happening to them is not acceptable. It was and is a waste of time. So, here I am, in my Third World village in Mexico, happy as a Lord. Let them rot in their misery.<br /><br />Anonymous age 67Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-91944321788305303422010-02-15T07:35:49.269-08:002010-02-15T07:35:49.269-08:00i agree with extrapolating/applying the red pill/b...i agree with extrapolating/applying the red pill/blue pill to more than just men/women relationships. consider working 50 weeks out of the year to maybe get a 2 week break? buying a house to pay off for 30 years. rack up massive student debt just to make enough to pay it off after 10-15 years.John Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09563200602107612083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-80506254735116813462010-02-12T16:51:55.012-08:002010-02-12T16:51:55.012-08:00"People of extreme wealth and people with alm...<i>"People of extreme wealth and people with almost nothing acting in their own self interest will destroy civilization"</i><br /><br />Jared Diamond said something like this in his book "Guns, Germs, and Steel"...that the elites somehow get caught up in fads that eventually serve to upend the very hegemony they set up.<br /><br />Conspiracy? Yes. But in the sense that "con" == 'with' or 'together' and "spire" == "breathe". Just a buncha likeminded useful idiots selling us all down the river.<br /><br />Good to see you again, pjanus...Elusive Wapitihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825547465295622621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-77940182986849653242010-02-12T14:18:15.269-08:002010-02-12T14:18:15.269-08:00I can see through the matrix far more clearly than...I can see through the matrix far more clearly than most people. What's obvious to me is a mystery to the masses. I would say my clarity of vision exceeds yours.<br /><br />Now whatever I say next, no matter how sensible it may be, will probably not be taken seriously because of the way I started this comment.<br /><br />That's why there are politicians. Convincing anyone of anything is much more difficult than stringing together a plausible argument with supporting facts.<br /><br />But I won't continue. I'm not a politician, and my version of reality will not go easily into someone else's head.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-8922063339654815212010-02-12T13:41:25.509-08:002010-02-12T13:41:25.509-08:00"Himmler could only dream of the level of con..."Himmler could only dream of the level of control over We the Sheeple's minds that today's social engineers exercise on the masses."<br /><br />well he did dream it, HI<br /><br />the mass-psych techniques -- and technicians -- used by the nazi came to the US via Operation Paperclip (and others)<br /><br />it's no coincidence that the western cryptocracy went hog-wild immediately following the post-war years .... what with all that new talent available! :O)<br /><br />we see the effects of this influx most clearly in the installation of the matriarchy throughout the west, and in the mass caging of males in america for "crimes against the public conscience"<br /><br />nice photo lead also<br /><br />raylittle dynamohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11380746207592226835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-66408310412877706102010-02-12T10:08:43.809-08:002010-02-12T10:08:43.809-08:00H.L.
Thanks for the link. I have been looking to...H.L.<br /><br />Thanks for the link. I have been looking to get my hands on Tragedy and Hope for some time.pjanushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12238342782805378995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-80272613402996393282010-02-12T09:11:52.555-08:002010-02-12T09:11:52.555-08:00Do you have examples of individuals who are part o...Do you have examples of individuals who are part of the conspiracy? Who say to themselves 'I am part of a conspiracy with the goal of XXX'. Or have i got the wrong end of the stick.symenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-58647942660803588732010-02-12T04:14:12.715-08:002010-02-12T04:14:12.715-08:00Deek Jackson
I don't necessarily agree with ev...Deek Jackson<br />I don't necessarily agree with everything he says but it's worth watching nevertheless:<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgkCw8_rIVw<br /><br />Unrelated but also interesting from the same guy:<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XUWnxc6-GADeansdalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00489386442913428856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-29384533115974813652010-02-12T03:42:27.803-08:002010-02-12T03:42:27.803-08:00Anon 7:56
Sorry your right that's the one, I ...Anon 7:56<br /><br />Sorry your right that's the one, I had the image of the website therearenosunglasses.wordpress.com<br />that had a picture of the movie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-89887909111844893832010-02-11T20:49:05.780-08:002010-02-11T20:49:05.780-08:00"They Live" with Rowdy Roddy Piper
I ca...<i>"They Live" with Rowdy Roddy Piper</i><br /><br />I came here to kick ass and chew gum...<br />And I am out of gum.Default Usernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-66327529469601483032010-02-11T19:56:37.462-08:002010-02-11T19:56:37.462-08:00I haven't seen the movie "there are no su...I haven't seen the movie "there are no sun glasses," but I did see "They Live" with Rowdy Roddy Piper. Were you thinking of that one?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-20615939183459634332010-02-11T19:51:28.345-08:002010-02-11T19:51:28.345-08:00When 0.1 percent decides what 99.9 percent is goin...When 0.1 percent decides what 99.9 percent is going to do that is a conspiracy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-70673609812296848582010-02-11T19:43:17.331-08:002010-02-11T19:43:17.331-08:00I've been following the same research path as ...I've been following the same research path as Dave for a few years now, but I'm still not sure it is a conspiracy. Survival Plus author Charles Smith (oftwominds.com) has influenced my thinking. He writes about plutocracies, and elite influence. A different writer at Occidental weekly writes almost the same exact article as <br />Smith but thinks everthing is the Jew's fault. Sailer writes about similar issues and blames immigration. We all want a scapegoat--somebody or someone resposible must be to blame. What if the real problem is human nature itself. People of extreme wealth and people with almost nothing acting in their own self interest will destroy civilization. We used to call this sin. Maybe it only seems to be a conspiracy.raynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-81068144598347254782010-02-11T19:17:36.905-08:002010-02-11T19:17:36.905-08:00Have you ever seen the movie 'There are no sun...Have you ever seen the movie 'There are no sun glasses'. Absolute classic, goes off at the end to ensure it doesn't offend Hollywood but pretty much sums up conspiracy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256367009985298221.post-22040381984230990022010-02-11T17:43:12.602-08:002010-02-11T17:43:12.602-08:00The only problem with calling it a conspiracy is t...The only problem with calling it a conspiracy is that conspiracies are organized in secret. There's nothing secret about the indoctrination we're fed by the news media, entertainment, government, schools, and most other organizations. <br /><br />It's not like they get together every month and plan out their strategy, because they don't have to: they can do it all right out in the open. Most of it they don't even have to discuss, because they all share the same assumptions, and automatically make the same choices, advance the same memes, ostracize the same dissenters.Aaronhttp://www.butteredham.com/blog/noreply@blogger.com